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GETTING THAT SOLD OUT TICKET

(Also see Avoid Touts)

 If you can plan ahead   If you cannot plan ahead

 

 

If you can plan ahead:

Be first in the Know
Sorry, but knowing what is coming and when tickets will go on sale is the best way of guaranteeing your seat.

Shows which will always sell out even before they open generally include anything with a star name involved, either in the cast - Elaine Paige or Maggie Smith; or producing - Mr. Lloyd Webber or Disney Corporation. These shows will be booked pretty solid for several weeks or months after opening night, and longer if reviews and public word of mouth are favourable.

Reading the Baz Bamigboye showbiz column in the Daily Mail newspaper on a Friday will keep you abreast of developments, giving details of what is likely to happen. Theatremonkey finds this better than watching TV interviews or other journalists reports - Baz is just so far ahead of the pack. 

The online e-mailing list run by www.whatsonstage.com offers a weekly newsletter with solid advance rumours. The theatremonkey homepage carries "live" updates of all articles rounded up in that particular email.

Group sales companies also get details well in advance, and tickets sometimes go on sale to groups before the general public. Register with Ticketmaster groups www.ticketmaster.co.uk or Group Line www.groupline.com / 020 7436 5588 to get details mailed to you.

Subscribing to "The Theatre List", a postal version of the Society of London Theatres website is expensive, but gives a long range warning of new shows scheduled. Call 020 7557 6771 for further details.

 

Be first in the line
Contact the theatre box office after reading Baz's column. Get a date for tickets going on sale. If they cannot or will not say, watch for teaser advertisements. These will appear in the Press - notably the London Evening Standard on Fridays, The Sunday Times Culture section and the Friday Daily Mail. Details of booking opening dates are often in small print in the adverts - some even offer advance booking just for readers.

Theatremonkey sends a letter to the box office a couple of weeks before this date requesting tickets. Mark the envelope clearly with the show title and ' Advance Box Office'. State a number of dates, specify evening or matinee, preferred seat location and maximum price you will be prepared to pay. Give a daytime and evening contact telephone number for queries, and enclose a stamped, self-addressed envelope for return of tickets. See letter on this site for an effective example.

Theatremonkey notes that postal ticket requests are often processed early and this method often gets the best tickets.

A very large advertisement in the Sunday Times Culture section signifies the opening of major show telephone bookings, traditionally at 10a.m. that day. Phone the hotline number at a bit before or a bit after, then try again at random intervals. Oddly, most people try again every five minutes. If you call, say, every seven and a quarter, your call will avoid the switchboard logjam and get answered first! Do remember to check the small print beside phone numbers, and only dial those without booking fees or low service charges!

The latest trend, since "Breath Of Life" pioneered it in June 2002, is to open priority internet booking two weeks before tickets are sold by any other method. The news is spread by email to subscribers to particular lists. Those particularly used to launch offers are run  www.lastminute.com/theatrenow  and www.whatsonstage.com. Getting onto these lists is free and worthwhile- they do not sell your details on, and the information is invaluable. Additionally the "Priority Membership" paid subscription scheme run by www.ticketmaster.co.uk is often used. This system may well be the future of popular show booking in the future, so is well worth knowing about.

Another development is the producer "holding off sale" some prime seats for many performances when booking initially opens, then trickling them back on sale as it gets closer to opening night. Worth ringing regularly if you can't get decent seats initially, as in a week or three they might have something good...

 

Beat the 'Line Busy' tone
Theatre chains Really Useful and Ambassador both have centralised phonerooms. No matter which theatre in the chain you dial, your call is routed to one place. This central place has access to reservations systems at ALL theatres in the chain. If you get the line busy tone, ring the number of another chain member and ask sweetly for the clerk to take your booking. Few refuse.

"General" phone numbers for each theatre chain are:

RU Theatres / See Tickets: 0870 830 0200 or 020 7087 7500.

Ambassador Group Theatres: 020 8544 7424.

Ticketmaster: 0161 385 3211.

 

Really Useful 
By the by, at Really Useful and Get Live theatre box offices, should you call in person,  you can often (but NOT ALWAYS) also make reservations for any other show hosted by the chain at the same time as buying your tickets for the current resident production. This saves tourist time and feet and is a little known facility. But very useful. Just do not do it in the hour before the show starts, or those waiting to collect tickets may lynch you.

 

 

Mailing lists
The other best method of jumping the line. Prior to Nicole Kidman's London debut, thousands joined the Donmar list for advance booking privilege. They were probably about the only ones to get in. No waiting for adverts, the news is delivered in good time to your door. Just remember to act on the same day you get the details - mailing lists are huge and full of avid theatregoers all competing with you. Hesitation is fatal, as National Theatre list members will attest. Companies with lists offering priority booking include the Royal Shakespeare, Royal Court, Royal National, Donmar and Ambassador Group theatres.

The Ambassador Theatre Group's scheme, 'UPSTAGE' sometimes reserves a selection of seats for members, which are only released to the public two days before the show. Membership is £18 per year. Details on 020 7369 1789.

 

 

If you cannot plan ahead:

Visitors to London, Theatremonkey knows, often cannot book the months ahead that the above methods require. So to get in on short notice…

Ask for the least
Single seats are easier to come by than pairs. Often the box office or agencies will have an odd ticket - insist to the clerk that they check the computer properly. Sadly too many, especially in phonerooms at busy times, will believe the hype and will not. But be polite. If your party is prepared to split up you have a chance. This advice should possibly be ignored by those on a first date though.

Reader Ali agrees on this point,
"Just a note on getting tickets – I was on my own, buying only one ticket (obviously!) I was offered several good options for seats... I have in the past bought 3 single tickets for my family, sometimes scattered all through the theatre, in order to get to see a show – after all, you are watching the show, not chatting, and you can always meet up in the interval. You get a better choice if you buy singles, as they fit you in the gaps, so the seats may be very, very good. It wouldn’t necessarily work if you have young children though."

If just getting to see a show is the important thing, do not be picky about date, time, price or seat location. Even theatremonkey has accepted bad or expensive seats on occasion just to 'be there' for an event. Accept the good seats (except house seats as below) are gone, and be grateful to get in at all.

Small point to remember: once you are sure that the clerk has made the effort to look for tickets on your chosen date, accept their word that there are none. Box office staff like selling all available tickets, and will do so if they can. Most are not magicians, though, and cannot produce tickets which really and genuinely don't exist!

 

Be an earlybird
Most people assume that a good review automatically means the show is sold out the second the word "hits the street". Not true. In London the public tend to buy seats around three weeks ahead. In the case of a new smash hit show review, the first few days after opening will often be less busy than you expect, so tickets will often be available!

 

Try the Returns and / or "Day Seats" line
Even sold out shows have tickets left on the day of performance. These usually consist of tickets given back to the box office by customers unable to use them, or agencies unable to sell their stock. A few even come from Police and Consumer Protection officers who have confiscated tout's stock. Also, the theatre usually hasn't sold the type of seats mentioned above. Best of all are added a few prime seats called 'house tickets' normally kept back for VIP / managers use but not required that day.

Some theatres, notably the Royal National, the Royal Shakespeare Company (wherever they are currently playing), Royal Court and Lyceum also keep back a few seats deliberately for sale on the day of performance as a public service and anti tout measure. Increasingly, this trend is being followed by the most popular musicals and plays at other venues, with the front row of the stalls being held for sale on the day - often more cheaply (though they may have a slightly restricted view of the stage, particularly where the height of the stage prevents seeing the actors' feet!).

Returns lines form outside the theatre from around 8a.m, earlier for really hot shows and in summer. Tickets go on sale at 10 a.m. and continue to be sold as they come in, right through until curtain up time, so stick around until then - even if it seems "all hope" is gone, you never know! Wrap up warm, take refreshments, and be prepared to wait. Make sure that you also take BOTH credit cards AND cash too, to the value of the most expensive tickets (if you are prepared to pay it!). Some box offices insist that you pay with one or the other specifically, depending on the source of the tickets they are selling you.

A reader says,
"You can usually get really good returns at the Donmar for a Sat eve if you get there by about 6 and are prepared to wait; we got front row tickets for "Frost Nixon" for example. It's first come first served and the BO staff are really helpful, and you need cash. If there's two of you, one can sit and wait and the other can shop in Covent Garden, fetch supplies of food etc. I've had similar experiences for other sold out shows there and at the Almeida, more than once.

The Royal Court's system works on the basis that you turn up after a certain time on the day and get given a card with a number; you then go back at a certain time (I think half an hour before the start time, but you would need to check) and they sell off what they've had returned in the order of your numbered card. We got great tickets for 'the Seagull' last year (2007)."

 

Pay for the VIP treatment
Most theatres offer this service - ask the box office for details. Choose from champagne at the interval to a full meal, private rooms or just a programme and chocolates. All with the best seats included. Not cheap at £100 per person upwards, but memorable. 

If you happen to be staying in a hotel with a concierge service, ask them to obtain seats for you. Members of the concierge service organisation 'Golden Keys' co-operate to make the impossible seem easy. It will cost plenty, but the tickets produced will not be stolen or fake - unlike those offered by ticket touts / scalpers. Information about the organisation is at http://www.goldenkeysconcierge.co.uk/ and this page provides a list of hotels at which members operate.

 

Scale the peaks
The busiest performances are Saturday then Friday evening. Next come Saturday and Sunday matinees, especially for child friendly shows e.g. The Lion King; and Thursday evenings. At the Royal National Theatre midweek matinees are also busy as mailing list members seem to prefer them and take many of the available tickets during their priority booking period. Choose Monday to Wednesday Evenings and midweek matinees (except at the National Theatre) as you stand a better chance in general.

Theatremonkey reckons Tuesday evenings and the midweek matinees often see the cast give the best performances of the week.

 

Extra Performances
Extra performances of hit shows are often scheduled outside the normal pattern of Monday to Saturday night plus two afternoons. Either extra performances are added during a bank holiday week to make up for missed evenings / cash in on Christmas or School holiday time, or a charity midnight show will run as a fundraiser. Tickets often go on sale at short notice and seats are often left over on the day for casual walk-ins to buy. Charity galas may add a donation to the price, but in the cheapest seats it will often not be too much and at least you get to see the play.

 

STAR Agencies
Agencies, because they charge a bit more, can have tickets when the theatre has sold out. Check. Remember to see the Avoid Touts page on this site.

Legitimate companies include Lashmar 020 7493 4731, Albemarle 020 7637 9041, Abbey 020 7798 9200, Keith Prowse Ticketing (incorporating First Call and Edwards and Edwards / Global) 0870 840 1111 (from abroad call +0035 37788952) for the former First Call agency, LoveTheatre (who own the theatremonkey ticketshop) 020 7907 7000, West End Theatre Booking 08700 42 10 55 and Leicester Square Box Office (not the same as the half price TKTS booth, just a similar name) 020 7494 2301. Advance 0870 240 1900 and ELondon 0845 345 5159.

Ticketmaster 0161 385 3211, while often also acting for the box office, occasionally have single seats too, which can be picked up by the lucky!

 

Local Coach Trips
Some coach tour companies within fifty miles of London run inclusive trips combining a ticket with transport from their local area. These companies often schedule well ahead and will have bought great seats at group rates in anticipation of a new hit show. The result is a package for less than the price of a ticket alone. They have fifty coach seats to fill from the local population. Why not travel a little way out of town; see a new place in the day then join them for the trip. If staying in the West End just politely tell the driver you will not be returning with the coach to the starting point after the show. 

 

Overseas Agents
Ticket Agencies in other countries often have access to an allocation of tickets reserved exclusively for London bound tourists. An overseas call or hit on their website gives access to theses tickets. Some may refuse to sell to UK credit card holders without overseas addresses, but it is worth a try.

 

Packages
Booking a hotel room with a theatre ticket included in the price can sometimes be done at short notice. If the hotel / tour company has pre purchased tickets to make into packages, this expensive method can save weeks of waiting. And provide that excuse for the weekend away you always wanted.

 

Boxes and Restricted Views
Contact the box office by direct phone line or drop in. Seats in boxes and behind pillars are not generally publicised as being available to the public. Theatremonkey notes one occasion where the clerk didn't even know the seats existed, despite being marked on the plan in front of her! Check the best ones on this site using either Venue Names or Show Titles A to Z

 

Hang around
Inevitably, some disgruntled theatregoer leaves a performance early. Try asking nicely to buy their ticket. Half a show is better than none. Similarly, touts stuck with tickets after curtain up can offer them cheap or even bin the tickets they were holding. Up to your morals to use this method. See Avoid Touts on this site.

You could even try offering cash / use of your yacht / mind or any legally tradable commodity, to arriving audience members. In theatremonkey's experience though, it never works.

 

Online Auctions
Tickets for sold out events, notably concerts, are often offered for sale on online auction / marketplace sites. While sellers may well be legitimate, and abiding by the trading site's purchase codes, you have no way of telling who they are. Inadvertently you could be buying from a tout / scalper. Prices are also very high and there is no guarantee the venue will admit you even with your expensive ticket. "Let the buyer beware" is the motto here.

Theatremonkey does not endorse buying from these sources. Links from auctions to this website are not made by theatremonkey and theatremonkey.com DOES NOT take responsibility for the legitimacy of the seller or tickets being offered. 

 

Death Rattles and Suntans
If a "star" name is off, either due to plague or scheduled holiday, the box office is often left with seats even if all other performances are sold out. You'll see the show - often with highly talented actors covering the star role - without having to wait.

Note that if an actor does suddenly fall victim to marauding germs, it means tickets often come available on the day as fans swap them for other performances (if the producer allows it). Worth asking the box office either by telephone or at the counter if you see "Tonight Mr Wonderful is Off" notices at the theatre.

 

Final Note
Monkey advice is to ignore the "hype" surrounding the concept of "sold out shows". The only time a show really will be a tough ticket to get is if it is staged in a venue with less than 300 to 400 seats - the Donmar Warehouse, Cottesloe and Pit only. Other London theatres are much larger and take a little more filling!

Very often, once initial press coverage has died down (around two weeks in London) those who bought tickets have second thoughts - and frequently return them to the box office. 

To give one example, a play starring a well known actress was said to be "sold out" for the entire run. In actuality, the theatre was getting back more seats than it could sell - so every night there were a few tickets left....worth remembering, thinks the monkey.

 

Final, final note for Pop Concert fans...
Like theatre, tickets for press-hyped sold out events are actually often easier to obtain than folk think. If you miss out in the initial ballyhoo when "tickets all sold out in 1 hour on the first day they went on sale," then monkey advice is to "wait and see."

First, when things have settled down a few hours or days later, often checking official websites reveal single tickets left for a particular date.

Around 4 to 6 weeks before the show takes place things get even clearer. The stage design is fixed and so some seats that were held back in case they had a restricted view / were needed for technical reasons are placed on sale.  At the same time, unsold tickets from package tour operators and agencies as well as unwanted VIP tickets are also released... and may even trickle back on sale up until the night of the show! Basically, by waiting rather than feeding the greed of an auction site tout, you'll often get stunning seats near the front without the hassle of the opening day sales fight.

It doesn't happen this way every time of course, but the monkey finds that it holds at least 9 times out of 10...

 

 

 

 

 

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